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		<title>By: Wordage</title>
		<link>http://www.deadcharming.com/2008/05/23/one-bite-from-the-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>Wordage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway ... nice blog to visit.

cheers, Wordage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway &#8230; nice blog to visit.</p>
<p>cheers, Wordage.</p>
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		<title>By: Taoist Biker</title>
		<link>http://www.deadcharming.com/2008/05/23/one-bite-from-the-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>Taoist Biker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually very much like this example.  But yeah, I&#039;d think loooong and hard before I posted anything about religion.  (I have an as-yet unpublished post to that effect that I keep thinking &quot;Should I?&quot; only to answer myself &quot;HELL no.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually very much like this example.  But yeah, I&#8217;d think loooong and hard before I posted anything about religion.  (I have an as-yet unpublished post to that effect that I keep thinking &#8220;Should I?&#8221; only to answer myself &#8220;HELL no.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Dead Charming</title>
		<link>http://www.deadcharming.com/2008/05/23/one-bite-from-the-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>Dead Charming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never realize I&#039;m on &quot;non-punctuator&quot; (that&#039;s my new favorite word today) ground until I&#039;ve already steaked my claim to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never realize I&#8217;m on &#8220;non-punctuator&#8221; (that&#8217;s my new favorite word today) ground until I&#8217;ve already steaked my claim to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Allison</title>
		<link>http://www.deadcharming.com/2008/05/23/one-bite-from-the-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A post of rejected comments would make for a very amusing read (not that you need any advice on what to post).

I like that you put so much thought into your refusal criteria.  I usually just refuse if the comment gives me the heebie jeebies (like the freaky guy who called me a misandrist when I drew a picture of my husband purchasing little girl skivvies at Wal-Mart.)  However, I don&#039;t typically post on controversial topics that might attract the dreaded non-punctuator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A post of rejected comments would make for a very amusing read (not that you need any advice on what to post).</p>
<p>I like that you put so much thought into your refusal criteria.  I usually just refuse if the comment gives me the heebie jeebies (like the freaky guy who called me a misandrist when I drew a picture of my husband purchasing little girl skivvies at Wal-Mart.)  However, I don&#8217;t typically post on controversial topics that might attract the dreaded non-punctuator.</p>
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		<title>By: essaytch</title>
		<link>http://www.deadcharming.com/2008/05/23/one-bite-from-the-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>essaytch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 18:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, and you thought YOU opened a can of worms! I think I brought up the Ephesians verse. Oops.

Well, I guess we&#039;re even, considering the mess you made about anime. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, and you thought YOU opened a can of worms! I think I brought up the Ephesians verse. Oops.</p>
<p>Well, I guess we&#8217;re even, considering the mess you made about anime. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dead Charming</title>
		<link>http://www.deadcharming.com/2008/05/23/one-bite-from-the-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>Dead Charming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sequence of comments:

1) Facing off with a wolf spider IS love.  That&#039;s not shallow at all.  ICK.

2) Even though I didn&#039;t specificially mention it, I was talking about the whole chapter, not just verse 22 in my rediculously long comment.  Arbitrary verse numbering is a big downfall of the KJV based translations (read: 99% of them published in english).

3) Comments that don&#039;t make the cut include one or more (and almost always more) of the following factors:

- Written in all uppercase.
- More quoted biblical passages than commentary.
- Direct hostility to non-literal views of scripture.
- Direct hostility to non-Baptist/Catholic/Scientology views.
- Refusal to use punctuation.
- Comments that exceed the origional post length by more than a factor of three.

Long comments, stingy punctuation and a heavy use of the imperative voice are fine if you&#039;re a regular commenter.  In fact, unless you&#039;re being hostle or rude, I can&#039;t imagine yanking a comment from an approved commenter...

And I&#039;ll never EVER yank something by Essaytch after skewing her google search so baddly with some of my own comments on her blog...

But if your first comment breaks three or more of the above general guidlines, you&#039;re not gonna be approved.

And on that note, I&#039;d point out that I&#039;ve refused more comments to this post SINCE YESTERDAY MORNING than I&#039;ve gotten on the rest of my blog.

Apparently Adam and Eve really bring out the crazies.  Although most of the last batch were REALLY upset over Ephesians 5:22...

If you all want, I&#039;ll collect some of the more choice chunks from &quot;the refused&quot; and make a new post out of it.  That should make them happy, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sequence of comments:</p>
<p>1) Facing off with a wolf spider IS love.  That&#8217;s not shallow at all.  ICK.</p>
<p>2) Even though I didn&#8217;t specificially mention it, I was talking about the whole chapter, not just verse 22 in my rediculously long comment.  Arbitrary verse numbering is a big downfall of the KJV based translations (read: 99% of them published in english).</p>
<p>3) Comments that don&#8217;t make the cut include one or more (and almost always more) of the following factors:</p>
<p>- Written in all uppercase.<br />
- More quoted biblical passages than commentary.<br />
- Direct hostility to non-literal views of scripture.<br />
- Direct hostility to non-Baptist/Catholic/Scientology views.<br />
- Refusal to use punctuation.<br />
- Comments that exceed the origional post length by more than a factor of three.</p>
<p>Long comments, stingy punctuation and a heavy use of the imperative voice are fine if you&#8217;re a regular commenter.  In fact, unless you&#8217;re being hostle or rude, I can&#8217;t imagine yanking a comment from an approved commenter&#8230;</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll never EVER yank something by Essaytch after skewing her google search so baddly with some of my own comments on her blog&#8230;</p>
<p>But if your first comment breaks three or more of the above general guidlines, you&#8217;re not gonna be approved.</p>
<p>And on that note, I&#8217;d point out that I&#8217;ve refused more comments to this post SINCE YESTERDAY MORNING than I&#8217;ve gotten on the rest of my blog.</p>
<p>Apparently Adam and Eve really bring out the crazies.  Although most of the last batch were REALLY upset over Ephesians 5:22&#8230;</p>
<p>If you all want, I&#8217;ll collect some of the more choice chunks from &#8220;the refused&#8221; and make a new post out of it.  That should make them happy, right?</p>
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		<title>By: essaytch</title>
		<link>http://www.deadcharming.com/2008/05/23/one-bite-from-the-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>essaytch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, you asked for it!!!
My biggest quibble w/ Eph 5:22-24 is just that people (read: most young Christian men I have ever met) try to make it stand alone. They don&#039;t look at the next portion of text, which begins “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church…”. And HOW did Christ love the Church? He sacrificed himself, dying on the cross for her, to cleanse her of her sins and make her “holy and blameless”. So to those who cling so dearly to “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife…”, I say: “The day you agree that you will willingly lay down your life for me, sacrificing yourself selflessly and with no second thought, and agree to love me as ‘you love your own body’, then I’ll concede the point.”

In fact, a family member is the wife of a Southern Baptist minister, and in college (when I was in the midst of my all-out Christian zeal), she and I got into a discussion of this very Bible verse in the kitchen one Thanksgiving. She took the position (one that was obviously hammered home in her household) that wives should submit and almost worship their husbands, as Eph 5:22 demands. I innocently responded along the lines mentioned above, and I’ll never forget the look on her face. It was as if she had never heard verse 25 before, and a light was suddenly switched on in her brain. I’d like to think that her hubby caught a little hell from his formerly-submissive wife after that.

Oh, and ALLISON: You&#039;re not shallow. If I had a husband to step in and take care of a wolf spider for me, I&#039;d think it was love too. As it stands, I have to overcome being paralized by fear in order to roll up a magazine and kill the f*@!er myself. *sigh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, you asked for it!!!<br />
My biggest quibble w/ Eph 5:22-24 is just that people (read: most young Christian men I have ever met) try to make it stand alone. They don&#8217;t look at the next portion of text, which begins “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church…”. And HOW did Christ love the Church? He sacrificed himself, dying on the cross for her, to cleanse her of her sins and make her “holy and blameless”. So to those who cling so dearly to “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife…”, I say: “The day you agree that you will willingly lay down your life for me, sacrificing yourself selflessly and with no second thought, and agree to love me as ‘you love your own body’, then I’ll concede the point.”</p>
<p>In fact, a family member is the wife of a Southern Baptist minister, and in college (when I was in the midst of my all-out Christian zeal), she and I got into a discussion of this very Bible verse in the kitchen one Thanksgiving. She took the position (one that was obviously hammered home in her household) that wives should submit and almost worship their husbands, as Eph 5:22 demands. I innocently responded along the lines mentioned above, and I’ll never forget the look on her face. It was as if she had never heard verse 25 before, and a light was suddenly switched on in her brain. I’d like to think that her hubby caught a little hell from his formerly-submissive wife after that.</p>
<p>Oh, and ALLISON: You&#8217;re not shallow. If I had a husband to step in and take care of a wolf spider for me, I&#8217;d think it was love too. As it stands, I have to overcome being paralized by fear in order to roll up a magazine and kill the f*@!er myself. *sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: Allison</title>
		<link>http://www.deadcharming.com/2008/05/23/one-bite-from-the-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm....now I&#039;m very curious about the comments that didn&#039;t make the cut :-)

I feel so shallow after reading this post.  My husband took care of a wolf spider (who wanted to cohabitate) for me, and I thought that was love.  Sure, I had to threaten to call my daddy (how sad is that for a woman in her [early] 30&#039;s?), but he did it and that&#039;s what counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;.now I&#8217;m very curious about the comments that didn&#8217;t make the cut :-)</p>
<p>I feel so shallow after reading this post.  My husband took care of a wolf spider (who wanted to cohabitate) for me, and I thought that was love.  Sure, I had to threaten to call my daddy (how sad is that for a woman in her [early] 30&#8242;s?), but he did it and that&#8217;s what counts.</p>
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		<title>By: Dead Charming</title>
		<link>http://www.deadcharming.com/2008/05/23/one-bite-from-the-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>Dead Charming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as a follow up to that last comment, let me add that I don&#039;t think much of Paul&#039;s writings by and large.  Christianity 2.0 (everything Paul) is interesting in a &quot;Hellenic Greek sweeping away the Judaic origins&quot; kind of way...but it doesn&#039;t actually trip my personal &quot;faith&quot; mechanisms and I don&#039;t place any direct spiritual stock there.

So bear in mind that while the entymology of Ephesisians is interesting, and potentially even discussion-worthy, it doesn&#039;t guide my personal moral compass.

Following or just laughing at Ephesisians chapter 5 are equally valid spiritual decisions in my mind.  As for how to live a married life, I don&#039;t think Paul had any particularly good insights...as a confirmed bachelor he wasn&#039;t exactly preaching from a place of experiance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as a follow up to that last comment, let me add that I don&#8217;t think much of Paul&#8217;s writings by and large.  Christianity 2.0 (everything Paul) is interesting in a &#8220;Hellenic Greek sweeping away the Judaic origins&#8221; kind of way&#8230;but it doesn&#8217;t actually trip my personal &#8220;faith&#8221; mechanisms and I don&#8217;t place any direct spiritual stock there.</p>
<p>So bear in mind that while the entymology of Ephesisians is interesting, and potentially even discussion-worthy, it doesn&#8217;t guide my personal moral compass.</p>
<p>Following or just laughing at Ephesisians chapter 5 are equally valid spiritual decisions in my mind.  As for how to live a married life, I don&#8217;t think Paul had any particularly good insights&#8230;as a confirmed bachelor he wasn&#8217;t exactly preaching from a place of experiance.</p>
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		<title>By: Dead Charming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dead Charming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh come now!  You are ALWAYS allowed and encouraged to comment.  I&#039;m the fool that went there on Eph 5:22 so I clearly brought it on myself.

But for clearity, I don&#039;t believe that the word &quot;submit&quot; (or submission, OR subdued) is an appropriate translation of the greek word &quot;υποτασσεσθε&quot;.

It&#039;s a verb that implies COOPERATIVE action, not singular behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh come now!  You are ALWAYS allowed and encouraged to comment.  I&#8217;m the fool that went there on Eph 5:22 so I clearly brought it on myself.</p>
<p>But for clearity, I don&#8217;t believe that the word &#8220;submit&#8221; (or submission, OR subdued) is an appropriate translation of the greek word &#8220;υποτασσεσθε&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a verb that implies COOPERATIVE action, not singular behavior.</p>
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